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									Review of Draft Rules for 2022 - RG65 International Class Association Forum				            </title>
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                        <title>Why so comprehensive sail identification rules ?</title>
                        <link>https://rg65.org/forum/review-of-draft-rules-for-2022/why-so-comprehensive-sail-identification-rules/</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2021 09:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Being well seen and well recognize other boats is essential in a regatta. This goes through sails identifications.
Every RC sailing forum are full of questions about how to do and display t...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being well seen and well recognize other boats is essential in a regatta. This goes through sails identifications.</p>
<p>Every RC sailing forum are full of questions about how to do and display these identifications ; this results in misdisplays, in omiting some mandatory identifications (mostly on gibs)...</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Therefore, the target was to enforce a uniformisation of Sails Identifications with full details. </p>
<p>I hope this will help reducing unnecessary questions on national forums.</p>
<p>Of course the real application of these rules relies on every NCA/NCS, their measurers and competent people.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Achille</p>
<p> </p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://rg65.org/forum/review-of-draft-rules-for-2022/">Review of Draft Rules for 2022</category>                        <dc:creator>Achille</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Recap on the basic fundamental RG65 rules</title>
                        <link>https://rg65.org/forum/review-of-draft-rules-for-2022/recap-on-the-basic-fundamental-rg65-rules/</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2021 18:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[There are a few fundamentals of the RG65 class.

Length - Maximum length has not changed, but we propose to remove the minimum length
Maximum height of rig - Unchanged limit of 110cm, not...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a few fundamentals of the RG65 class.</p>
<ol>
<li>Length - Maximum length has not changed, but we propose to remove the minimum length</li>
<li>Maximum height of rig - Unchanged limit of 110cm, not we just define how to measure it</li>
<li>Maximum sail area - Not changed from 2,250sq cm.</li>
<li>Number of keels and rudders - not changed</li>
<li>Bumper - unchanged from a minimum of 0.4cm, but we have removed the maximum length (0.6cm)</li>
</ol>
<p> </p>
<p>So the fundamentals are exactly the same</p>
<p>only 1 new restriction.</p>
<p><em><span style="font-size: 12pt">"</span>All materials used shall be legally and commercially obtainable and usable without restriction in the territory where the boat is being operated<span style="font-size: 12pt">."</span></em></p>
<p>Just to make sure we stay legal....I don't want to sail with a boat with enriched uranium.... ? </p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://rg65.org/forum/review-of-draft-rules-for-2022/">Review of Draft Rules for 2022</category>                        <dc:creator>Wayne Stobbs</dc:creator>
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                        <title>These Rules will force us to change how we do things at our club</title>
                        <link>https://rg65.org/forum/review-of-draft-rules-for-2022/these-rules-will-force-us-to-chnage-how-we-do-things-at-our-club/</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2021 17:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[It will be impossible to come up with a set of rules that work 100% for 100% of the people because peoples needs are all different.
There 17 countries how have joined the ICA World council ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be impossible to come up with a set of rules that work 100% for 100% of the people because peoples needs are all different.</p>
<p>There 17 countries how have joined the ICA World council and many more that the ICA is engaged with.</p>
<p>Because so many countries and sailors want to to put their spin on the rules we have had to often come up with a compromise.</p>
<p>In many cases we have just had to apply some common sense.</p>
<p>So when you review the rules, please consider the "big picture" but if there is anything that you believe the rules do not properly cater for, please give us that feedback.</p>
<p> </p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://rg65.org/forum/review-of-draft-rules-for-2022/">Review of Draft Rules for 2022</category>                        <dc:creator>Wayne Stobbs</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Who was involved in drafting the 2020 proposal</title>
                        <link>https://rg65.org/forum/review-of-draft-rules-for-2022/who-was-involved-in-drafting-the-2020-proposal/</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2021 17:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[The majority of the initial work was done by Achille Chatin and Wayne Stobbs, but also a lot of input from Members of the World Council including a number from South America where the class ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The majority of the initial work was done by Achille Chatin and Wayne Stobbs, but also a lot of input from Members of the World Council including a number from South America where the class originated.</p>
<p>We are therefore confident that these rules reflect the needs of most, if not all, the 17 countries that have already joined the World Council as well as those Nations who are in the process of doing so.</p>
<p> </p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://rg65.org/forum/review-of-draft-rules-for-2022/">Review of Draft Rules for 2022</category>                        <dc:creator>Wayne Stobbs</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Why to the draft Rules allow a Depth Limit to be set for an event.</title>
                        <link>https://rg65.org/forum/review-of-draft-rules-for-2022/why-to-the-draft-rules-allow-a-depth-limit-to-be-set-for-an-event/</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2021 17:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Imagine you take you boat to an event in another country and find that you cannot sail because your keel is 10cm longer than everyone else.   It was never a problem for them because they all...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine you take you boat to an event in another country and find that you cannot sail because your keel is 10cm longer than everyone else.   It was never a problem for them because they all have short keels and so the depth of water was never a problem.</p>
<p>Not only is this bad for you, but you could make it bad for everyone.</p>
<p>You would be entitled to protest the race committee and have the whole event abandoned.</p>
<p>When drafting the 2022 rules proposal we did not consider adding a maximum depth/draft  (60 to 65cm) which would allow event organisers to always ensure that they provided enough water depth, but after consulting with many of you it was decided not to do this, but only "allow" event organisers to specify a maximum depth IF they envisaged a problem.   By doing it this way it would not impact anyone who wanted to try a very long keel on an RG65</p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://rg65.org/forum/review-of-draft-rules-for-2022/">Review of Draft Rules for 2022</category>                        <dc:creator>Wayne Stobbs</dc:creator>
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                        <title>What weren&#039;t we consulted more before these rules became official</title>
                        <link>https://rg65.org/forum/review-of-draft-rules-for-2022/what-werent-we-consulted-more-before-these-rules-became-official/</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2021 17:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[These rules ARE NOT OFFICIAL.   They are only a draft for discussion.   Please do not start to use them in events of when designing a new boat.
Until the RG65 ICA World Council votes to acc...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These rules <span style="text-decoration: underline">ARE NOT OFFICIAL</span>.   They are only a draft for discussion.   Please do not start to use them in events of when designing a new boat.</p>
<p>Until the RG65 ICA World Council votes to accept them the 2014 Rules are still the official class rules.</p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://rg65.org/forum/review-of-draft-rules-for-2022/">Review of Draft Rules for 2022</category>                        <dc:creator>Wayne Stobbs</dc:creator>
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                        <title>My rigs no longer comply with the 110cm height limit</title>
                        <link>https://rg65.org/forum/review-of-draft-rules-for-2022/my-rigs-no-longer-comply-with-the-110cm-height-limit/</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2021 17:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[If they do not comply with the 2022 draft rules then it it is probable that they did not comply with the 2014 rules.
Item 5.2.1 of the 2014 rule
&quot;No part of rig will extend beyond the bow ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they do not comply with the 2022 draft rules then it it is probable that they did not comply with the 2014 rules.</p>
<p>Item 5.2.1 of the 2014 rule</p>
<p>"<em>No part of rig will extend beyond the bow nor beyond the stern of the boat nor to more than 110 cm over the sheerline at the point of coincident with the mast position</em>".</p>
<p>The draft 2020 rules simply change the measurement point on the Hull to be "at least 1 point on the centreline"  That "1 point" can be anywhere along the centreline, not just where the mast intersects with the deck.</p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://rg65.org/forum/review-of-draft-rules-for-2022/">Review of Draft Rules for 2022</category>                        <dc:creator>Wayne Stobbs</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Why can an RG65 now be 66.1cm long</title>
                        <link>https://rg65.org/forum/review-of-draft-rules-for-2022/why-can-an-rg65-now-be-66-1cm-long/</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2021 17:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Simple answer to this, for many years an RG65 was allowed to be 66.1cm long, way before most of us became involved in the class
It is true that the RG65 first started life as a 65cm boat in...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simple answer to this, for many years an RG65 was allowed to be 66.1cm long, way before most of us became involved in the class</p>
<p>It is true that the RG65 first started life as a 65cm boat in South America, born out of the free-saling G65.   But, to help builders, a tolerance was permitted of +/-0.5cm.   So that means that the hull could be 65.5cm long.</p>
<p>After a while it was decided that these boats needed a rubber bumper on the bow to stop boats form being damaged in a collision.   Rather that expect everyone to change their existing hulls it was agreed that the 0.5cm rubber bumper could be added to the front of the existing hull.   Once again, to help builders, it was agreed that a tolerance was allowed for the bumper of +/-0.1cm, therefore allowing a bumper to be up to 0.6cm long.</p>
<p>Add maximum hull and bumper and you get 65.5 + 0.6 = 66.1cm.  </p>
<p>So, nothing has changed in the length measurement, only the way it is defined.</p>
<p> </p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://rg65.org/forum/review-of-draft-rules-for-2022/">Review of Draft Rules for 2022</category>                        <dc:creator>Wayne Stobbs</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Why are the draft rules so complicated, they are 24 pages long?</title>
                        <link>https://rg65.org/forum/review-of-draft-rules-for-2022/why-are-the-draft-rules-so-complicated-they-are-24-pages-long/</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2021 16:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[While the draft rules are indeed 24 pages long, they are no more complicated than the current 2014 official class rules.
There are a number of things that have made them &quot;longer&quot; including:...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the draft rules are indeed 24 pages long, they are no more complicated than the current 2014 official class rules.</p>
<p>There are a number of things that have made them "longer" including:</p>
<ul>
<li>The rules are now formatted with headings and sub heading to make them easier to search and read.  This layout has significantly increased the length of the document</li>
<li>There are now a lot of definitions and abbreviations that are lists to help everyone have a consistent understanding of the rules.</li>
<li>All the Sail Measurement, Sail Identification and Certification documents are included in this single document rather than being spread through separate documents</li>
<li>The 2014 left a lot of things "open to interpretation" and we have sought to clarify as many of these as we can.</li>
</ul>
<p>We are sure that once you have reviewed this document you will have a clear understanding of the Rules.  We have tried to make them very easy to understand</p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://rg65.org/forum/review-of-draft-rules-for-2022/">Review of Draft Rules for 2022</category>                        <dc:creator>Wayne Stobbs</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Discussion</title>
                        <link>https://rg65.org/forum/review-of-draft-rules-for-2022/discussion/</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2021 16:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[A draft of some new Rules was recently published to allow all RG65 stakeholders to review and comment of the Rules Proposal until 14 January 2022 whereafter they will be prepared and offered...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A draft of some new Rules was recently published to allow all RG65 stakeholders to review and comment of the Rules Proposal until 14 January 2022 whereafter they will be prepared and offered to the RG65 ICA World Council for acceptance.</p>
<p>We are seeing a lot of fantastic discussion around this topic and there are a number of points that are regularly cropping up, so we will seek to clarify some of those recurring points in this forum.   Please feel free to discuss them in these forums, but any request for amendment of the rules must be submitted via your ICA World Council Member or National Representative who you can find <a href="https://rg65.org/national-representatives/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">here</a>.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Thank you all for helping us with this major step forward by the class.</p>
<p>In case you missed the announcement about the Rules, please see <a href="https://rg65.org/time-for-you-to-review-the-draft-2022-class-rules/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">here</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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